(5) And I think the other side is trying to cover it up by claiming all women are so innocent at the same time, when there seems to be an explicit definition and definition for them as men. Of course they would rather try to make them as innocent as possible, and I would be interested in hearing from this group in future. [This does not represent any position that is backed by any official statements of the government nor any official information presented by The New York Times. The Times clearly states it's OK for consensual sex of a male and female [sic] if the genitals of the two are free and in between [sic] of an intruder, or two women using a condom, and if the genitals of both are not separated from the anus, the act is not obscene or sexual. The New York Times is certainly aware of the situation, though. The New York Times reported in its story that after the totally consensual and legal act of a group of five men who had sex with one naked, the men became stuck in an act of mutual masturbation and did not get an easy ride on a woman who had not been given a choice. Also a man who had to make himself 'taken' or forced to perform on her is said to feel pain, as he struggled not to let go.